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tractorpunk



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: alpacas Reply with quote

every time i flick thru the pages of various farming magazines i keep coming across adds for alpacas, very expensive alpacas- £1000 for a neutered male, god knows what for a female- and i'm wondering what its all about.
 me and the missus, cynics that we are, reckon its a kind of pyramid scheme for small-holders. maybe someone somewhere imported a few into the uk at great expense and set about making his money back. now other folk further down the line are trying to turn a profit from their investment, offering these animals as the next big thing. in 5 years time they'll either be so popular that we'll all have one or out of fashion and some folk will be stuck with expensive live-stock.
  what are they good for? all i've discovered is that they'll protect your poultry, tho not as well as a 12-guage, and if you have the time you could make a nice hat...... i think i'll pass


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macconraoi



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was at the Royal show a few years back and saw them for the first time,we asked a lady in charge of them "what does the meat taste like ?" she replied with a horrified look on her face "You don't eat them !".I don't know  why anyone would pay that kind of money for one .
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dara



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit like the angora goat 'goldrush' in the UK back in the 70's / 80's - initially a few pioneers made huge bucks but a lot of latecomers lost a lot of money when the horns (or more likely the hoofs from foot rot) finally fell off that one.
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wayland



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are cute. Very cute. but they are pets. Some pay lots for dogs, cats, birds etc. So whats the difference?. What gets me is why do owners show them in Agri shows etc. As I say they are just pets and should not be portrayed as anything else.
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blowin



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: alpacas Reply with quote

tractorpunk wrote:
.....reckon its a kind of pyramid scheme for small-holders.

That was my conclusion .
OH was very keen to get a couple when we first came over here . Apart from looking very cute the word was that they would eat all the rushes , keep fox away and never die without good reason and due notice . You could sell the fleece for megabucks and retire on the profit from selling the offspring .
Unfortunately not so , as far as I could tell after further research .
A friend keeps several and spins the wool to make very attractive and unique garments . The animals don't eat rushes but do need a fair bit of attention . Vets have little experience of treating them ( given that they are cameliods and have more stomachs than sheep or cattle ) . The garments sell for only a fraction of what they might be worth in the UK . The fleece is worth more than wool but you need a specialist sheerer to cut it without damaging the animal and , I was told , you can only sheer every second year . The life expectancy is about 12 years . The value of fleece would not cover costs in that time if you are doing it on a small scale .
My friend is not on the forum due to crap  i/net connection but if you pm me I will check with her then give you her phone number . I am sure she would be very happy to offer much more informed advice than I can .
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MrsL



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a spinner and knitter, I can tell you that good alpaca fleeces are  highly sought after, and that's why they're kept over here, in the main.Funnily enough, I *hate* spinning the stuff with a passion Laughing  Laughing  Fleece goes for good money on the Guild sales table, though, and full fleeces are worth quite a bit if the quality is good. Round here, though, is suffering from alpaca overload - there's an awful lot of them.
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tractorpunk



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard a woman at the Tullamore show being interviewed on the radio about her alpacas. She said that the wool was worth 8 euro for 25 grammes. i've read ( in yet another alpaca article in our favourite magazine) that you can get 3- 5 kgs of fleece off one animal, sounds a bit better than your average sheep. maybe i should eat my hat, my hand-woven, naturally dyed, alpaca wool hat.
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blowin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last time I spoke to my alpacca friend she reckoned you'd get no more than about 40 euro a fleece . Will make a point of speaking again .
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the price has gone down due to it becoming more available; it used to be quite coveted, but as more and more fleece has become available over the past years, it's dropped in value; althought the top notch fleeces can still fetch good prices I believe.
As the world seems to shrink, people are always looking for the more exotic to spin - camel,  quivit (Alaskan ox-type animal), etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that angora wool is superior to alpaca. Is it not?



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