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Sean Ph'lib



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Demise of rural Ireland  Reply with quote

I took a stroll back today into my lately departed next-door neighbour's yard.  Where once there had been horses, donkeys, cows, bullocks, heifers, sows,  hens, geese, neighbours calling for advice or help or just to pass the time,  heaps of turnips and mangolds, ricks of hay and sops of oats, gardens of potatoes and cabbages, women baking bread and children running around, now there is -nothing.  The swallows were flying undisturbed  in and out on the sheds and young rabbits hopped around where once there had been a huge manure pile. Ploughs, scufflers, harrows, all once carefully looked after,  now lie rusting,  half concealed by nettles and brambles and the dwelling-house, the door of which was never closed during the day and which was home to arguing, fighting, loving, prayers, music, singing and dancing is now shut for ever and falling into disrepair.  Long live the EU!
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blowin



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Location: Tubbercurry , Co Sligo

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A sad story indeed.
Not dissimilar in the valley where I live. Three of the 7 local sheep farms have been pretty much abandoned since the old boys passed away in recent years. I am not aware of any meaningful incentives or even initiatives to encourage re-population.
I'm not sure what the EU has got to do with it though. Do you mean all the regs which stifle small enterprises before they even start ?
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wayland



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A sad story indeed but, the wheel turns as it should. I do reminisce of course from time to time. Not sure it a worthwhile occupation  but, ho hum. I am not a young man and do often think of those old timers that had an influence in my life. Now sadly all gone and it is us oldies who have to take their place. Not a position that I feel at all up to. Enough of all this melancholy.
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greentree



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Location: Roundwood, Wicklow

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a farmyard like that on our farm. Been empty now for 50 years. Very sad.
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Torc



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Location: North Clare

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pass a similar farmhouse every day and like to look in at the way nature is taking it all back.

The glass cracks, the birds get in and insects colonise the piles of guano. When the roof goes it will all be over.

Outside the thorns take over everywhere and the pathways grow over. There are tools and some old-fashioned machinery rotting in the broken down sheds.

I'll take pictures and they might be a record of the power of  the restorative power of nature.

The daughter of the woman who died there now has a new house on the land with a four-wheel drive jeep on the tarmacadam - for driving to work in the city.

Life goes on.
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wayland



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of our lane there is an abandoned farmstead. It consists of houses and farm buildings surrounding a yard. Just the walls left standing with mature trees growing from within. What touches me somewhat is an old defiant rose bush growing out of the rubble at the base of one of the houses.  I can imagine Mother being given it as a present. I am told it is what is called a famine settlement. I believe that Blowin has something similar on his land.
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Torc



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mother, on our family rambles on a Sunday afternoon, loved to poke about in the ruins of the big houses in South Dublin. She would point out the kitchen garden and where the ladies would walk and she always took 'slips' of interesting plants.

Our terraced house had 'Sarah Curran's rose'* and others that I can't recall, named after various Lords and Ladies of a bygone age.

Those walks were  lessons in archaeology, social history and nature that couldn't be equalled on the Open University today.

*Robert Emmet's sweetheart.
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wayland



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have rooted many cuttings from this old rose. Has anyone got any suggestions on how I may find out what variety this rose may be ?
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Sean Ph'lib



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not make up your own name for it?  "Wayland's Discovery"  for example...
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blowin



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wayland wrote:
I have rooted many cuttings from this old rose. Has anyone got any suggestions on how I may find out what variety this rose may be ?

I wouldn't be able to identify it but could you post a pic anyway ? Perhaps start a new thread.That would be nice   .
There is a raised circular area in what I call our Fairy Wood. It  obviously had some significance because the deeds of our property show a boundary around it. None of the old locals can, or perhaps just won't, tell me anything about it. I suspect it is a graveyard for unchristened children dating back to the famine years. I left that area until last when I was clearing the brambles from the wood. Hair would stand up on back of neck and most people who are open minded would get a distinctly unwelcome feeling if there towards sunset. Happily it is no longer so spooky.    
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blowin wrote:
wayland wrote:
I have rooted many cuttings from this old rose. Has anyone got any suggestions on how I may find out what variety this rose may be ?

I wouldn't be able to identify it but could you post a pic anyway ? Perhaps start a new thread.That would be nice   .
There is a raised circular area in what I call our Fairy Wood. It  obviously had some significance because the deeds of our property show a boundary around it. None of the old locals can, or perhaps just won't, tell me anything about it. I suspect it is a graveyard for unchristened children dating back to the famine years. I left that area until last when I was clearing the brambles from the wood. Hair would stand up on back of neck and most people who are open minded would get a distinctly unwelcome feeling if there towards sunset. Happily it is no longer so spooky.    
ATB


I remember it well. So Blowin, how about you taking some pics of said feature and posting them here. Who knows what some may see in a twilight shot etc.? or better still use a camera trap over night.
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blowin



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wayland wrote:
..... So Blowin, how about you taking some pics of said feature and posting them here. .....

Anyone who hasn't been into that wood around dusk, and perhaps even some who have, may think this is a ridiculous thing to say : The wood does not like pics taken in there to be widely distributed! Over the years I have made about a dozen concerted attempts to post some by email or onto this forum. I have only ever succeded once. In fact my last attempt resulted in my putting that query on here about whether anyone else had a problem posting pics. I had uploaded several without any issue immediately before I tried one from the wood. That one wouldn't go and nor would any others after it. That turned out to be an obscure system setting which it took me a week to find. Normally the syst just freezes or the inet connection crashes. All such events relating to the wood have a mundane explanation but the serendipity of them is uncanny. I am superstitiously reluctant to try again.
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wayland



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! OK
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Sean Ph'lib



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blowin wrote:

Anyone who hasn't been into that wood around dusk, and perhaps even some who have, may think this is a ridiculous thing to say : The wood does not like pics taken in there to be widely distributed! Over the years I have made about a dozen concerted attempts to post some by email or onto this forum. I have only ever succeded once. In fact my last attempt resulted in my putting that query on here about whether anyone else had a problem posting pics. I had uploaded several without any issue immediately before I tried one from the wood. That one wouldn't go and nor would any others after it. That turned out to be an obscure system setting which it took me a week to find. Normally the syst just freezes or the inet connection crashes. All such events relating to the wood have a mundane explanation but the serendipity of them is uncanny. I am superstitiously reluctant to try again.
ATB


I don't blame you. As the bard said:
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
And he was a pretty smart fellow - I never yet came across anyone smarter!

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