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blowin



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:31 am    Post subject: grants for conservation measures  Reply with quote

A while ago there was a grant for creating and maintaining ponds/habitat for Natterjack toads . Work was minimal for a very reasonable reward ( cash and feel-good factor ) .
I've just been googling Freshwater Mussels and see that it was proposed to reward farmers for protecting the waterways in which they live . Don't know any detail or what came of the proposal .
If anyone hears of similar schemes would they please flag them up on here ?
Many thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My partner heard of a scheme to protect the freshwater mussel where you got paid for every mile of watercourse containing them that you patrolled daily .  We sent away for the form but when it came it was completely in irish.  We tried filling it in, but they never replied.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems there will be a new fresh-water mussel scheme starting in 2016. The Dept. are currently designing what they're calling "locally Led Agri-enviroment" schemes, to start in 2016. According to Agriland, these will be targeted at individual endangered species Inc fresh-water mussel, hen harrier etc.

Might be worth a look.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always interested to hear about those schemes but I wonder what long-term constraints one might be letting oneself in for . A cynical comment perhaps but I recently had someone tell me I couldn't touch any of the vegetation on an area of my land which is designated SAC . Well it is currently conserving bracken and brambles which are strangling all of the native riparian fauna which I want to rejuvenate but ......
There is a nearby habitat where I have found freshwater mussels , freshwater lamprey and native crayfish. These are not shown on any of the surveys I have seen . At one time I would have gone to some trouble to register them but I am reluctant to do so now.
Irresponsible ?
NIMBY ?
Hypocritical ?
Sensible ?

Any thoughts ?
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Monst



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imho blowin, once you are into these schemes, which you are reeled in by a grant or somesuch, they have you, and it ends up with no grant after a few years, but you still having to abide by the rules and regs. I may be being cynical but .................!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your land is designated SAC, SPA or NHA then you are already obliged to follow the rules laid down by National Parks and Wildlife. up here in the Slieve Aughtys I'm not allowed re-seed, plough, create new roads, undertake extensive drainage works, top rushes too often etc. etc.

By joining GLAS, I'm being well compensated for this so I'm not complaining. under the old NPWS farm plan scheme (which I imagine these new schemes might resemble) some of my neighbours were claiming close to half the average industrial wage just to follow these rules. Not bad if you can get it.

I suppose that by joining these schemes you are drawing attention to yourself and are now open to potential inspections, but the worst that will happen is you might lose a percentage of that years payment.

As regards these schemes suddenly stopping, I cant see that happening. AEOS1 and 2 were running before REPS4 was finished and now GLAS has begun before many have finished AEOS. In fact, if you have designated land, you are allowed to jump from an AEOS contract straight into GLAS.

Teagasc are of the opinion that hill-farming on designated land will never be a viable enterprise and recommend that these farmers should instead be encouraged to be custodians of the landscape, maintaining traditional farming methods. The Burren conservation scheme being the best example of the success of these schemes

I suppose my point is if you are already under their jurisdiction, and have to abide by their rules, then you might as well take their money.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fair point tp, as you say, if you have to do it anyways, grab the cash.


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