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wayland



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: First attempt at incubating. Reply with quote

Well my six RIR eggs have been in the incubator for two weeks now Smile . Don't time drag? Its like watching the kettle with an empty tea cup Confused I also have a further six RIR`s and six Orps in the post. I hope some of them hatch!! worry worry worry!. Laughing I also have four Marams and a clucky Dorking hen. So come next spring I should have a bit of a flock. With a bit of luck. What sort of poultry do you keep?



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you going to give the Dorking the eggs in the post? You could give her the fertile ones from the 'bator or the hatched chicks. Would save you a lot of electricity.

I'm inundated with chicks at the moment. Out of 22 hens, 6 are leading chicks and 3 are sitting on eggs. Pure madness.
I have double-laced Barnevelders and a mixed flock with Orpingtons, crosses, and a Marans.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see why your handle is Chook Laughing . I have thought about putting the eggs under the Dorking Confused She clucks around the Marams and Phil told me that she had gone broody. Would she sit on them if I just place them in a nest box and give her access?. Would I have to separate her from the Marams?. Shocked This is all new stuff to me and I luv it but I would not want to put the eggs at risk. Any advise would be appreciated Chook.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can see why your handle is Chook Laughing

More surprisingly I found my name is an anagram of "outback hens" or "hens out back" Laughing
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I have thought about putting the eggs under the Dorking. She clucks around the Marams and Phil told me that she had gone broody. Would she sit on them if I just place them in a nest box and give her access?. Would I have to separate her from the Marams?


Eggs that have been through the post generally do better under broodies than in an incubator (do rest them for 24 hrs though after they arrive with you and before you put them under/into either).
I have often combined the incubator and a broody:
*start in the 'bator and transfer when a hen goes broody
*incubate under broody and transfer some of the eggs to an incubator a day or two prior to hatching to be able to mark the chicks, e.g. when I incubate chicks of 2 strains of the same breed; then put the marked chicks back under the broody once they are dry (this must be done at night when it's dark!)
* in a "draggy hatch" take the eggs left behind by the broody after she got up with her first hatch and finish hatching them in the 'bator, then transfer back to broody as above.

If you are certain she is broody you can certainly give her the eggs. Put some fake eggs, golf balls or even little apples in the nest and see if she stays on them. If you gently slip your hand under her while she sits and she makes sort of growling noises but stays put you can be sure.
The best thing is to separate her into a quiet place (I use catboxes and even barrels laid on their side with straw in them and some kind of barrier to close it off). That way others will not lay additional eggs in the nest (you don't want that; eggs should all start and finish incubation together) or disturb her. Also you never know how the other hens react once the chicks are out. Most are no bother but you can have the odd nasty one who pecks and kills the chicks. Best rear them separately but within sight of the flock for a few weeks at least. (I more often than not do not do that due to space constraints but I have placid breeds and am familiar with their temperament and can assess the risk). An small ark is a good way of separating a broody and her chicks or a separate section of a larger house etc.
When I introduce a broody to her eggs I move her at the edge of night into her box or whatever and place the eggs in front of her. If she has moved them under herself by morning (they invariably have) things are fine.
Lift the broody off once a day at the same time (except for the morning after giving her the eggs and on day 21) to let her feed, drink and relieve herself and maybe have a dustbath. Leave her for 20-30 minutes and then make sure she is back on her nest, not another one. After 3-5 days mine have always sussed which one is theirs.

HTH and good luck with the hatches
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with the hatching Wayland ...

If I remember well you didn't have chickens last week when we met did you ?

did you feel a urge to get some we you left ! eh eh !

I've never tried buying eggs from ebay or posted eggs so can't relate ... but I would trust chook or Callie 100% .. they are poultry addict !

Congratulations and finger crossed for a 100% hatch !

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Chook and Camile for the advise and encouragement. I will do as you say Chook and test her to see if she is broody. The other eggs have arrived now and the incubator is full. It would be good to take a few out to make turning less tricky. With hands like shovels I am afraid that I may break them. When I got the birds home they were put into the run together. After a few scuffels the Dorking got very clucky over the young Marams and she fusses them about. Its good to see her doing this. Would she have formed an attachment to them that would prevent her from sitting on eggs? I will put some other eggs in a nest box today and see what happens.

Hi Camile. I did have some eggs in the incubator when we met but I did not have a coop to keep hens in. I was of the opinion that I got 21 days to sort it so no problem. Then I met Blowin and Phil and ended up comming away with stock. So I have been busy this week and now have an ark and run. So the timing of the all this was set by events. You did however spur me on to design my new extension with a loft like yours. A place to grow anything Wink I have also ordered a poly tunnel like yours.
So thanks for that.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chris,

it's a shame you hadn't seen Blowin and Phil first then .. because I really wanted to give you that young rooster that I have no use for whatsoever ... I wasn't kidding !

and I'm glad you made it back home safely .. and that the gardai didn't catch you for drink driving !

and I'm glad you liked the idea of the traditional irish loft Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Camile. Thanks for the offer of the unwanted cock Confused I did not wish to take you up on your kind offer because I have specific plans for specific breeds at the moment. This chook rearing is all new to me, as in the past I just collected the eggs and replaced the stock when they got to old. So taking advise on what breeds and crosses produce a good quality carcass, I am left with an Orpington cock and a Dorking hen. Not, you understand, that there was anything wrong with your cock of course Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi wayland !

don't worry .. I was just teasing you ..

I've got the same plan in mind, except that I don't aim at pure breed stocks ..

but I hope that the orpington cockerel is as good as mine . I got a breeding duo from Callie and these birds are enormous ..

I plan on breeding from them this year or next .. right now they are crossing with the rest ...

PS: The only thing wrong with that cockerel is that he is a bantam, silky crossed with a warren to be precise. Not much meat on them but carries a good broody gene with him ... but definitely not pure breed ..

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes mate. This is all new to me of course. The reason I am trying to keep PB breeding stock is to try to maintain a carcass quality. Its all in the eating of course and I may well change the blood line once I get more experienced.

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