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wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

It must be obvious to most of Europe that a majority of the UK peoples are reluctant to have any closer links with Brussels. The reason the UK does not have the Euro as its currency is because the Brits would vote against it in a referendum. So Tony does not call for one. Yet! So what do you lads think of the E.U.? It has helped Ireland in many ways I think, but is it all good?

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Conor · Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 21 Location: Lost in suburbia

Prosperity is a double-edged sword if there ever was one... Rolling Eyes

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wayoutwest · Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 184 Location: west clare

I don't really understand it all.

Sure, the roads are better - although I really don't think we need quite so many of them churning up the countryside on the other hand i can now drive the road to dingle without the dog hitting the roof of the car as he bounces on the back seat, and the suspension in our car has lasted longer than 7 months...

but I don't trust it.

however, I can't have a smart argument, becasue I know feck all about politics. Better on cabbages...
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tringle · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject:

I think its good, but I have seen benefits from it.

European funding made it possible to do a PLC course or vocational course at third level, before those grants only university courses and regional colleges were granted. It meant you could do a secretarial course on a grant. (Secretaries were always POSH as they had tp pay to do a course Wink

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Roads of course, and our whole transport systen was EU grant aided.

The single currency, We travel a bit and it is so easy having one currency, you dont need to change money and have bank fees, you can compare prices, and you dont get ripped of by taxi drivers and waiters who try to confuse you about the value of the notes.

Community development programs are as a result of EU funding.

Grants to businesses are too.

Though now that the economy is doing well we will become larger contributors rather than gain.
I am sure many people have found it to be different, and have lost because of the EU but for me it has been positive... and to the UK government I would suggest that if they do join the Euro zone then they may get an influx of Irish business, in whatever way, For example, I use the internet to shop and am quicker to but from a French company than a UK one because of the Euro. I also think it would bring back they day trippers for shopping to the UK.

Anyway, thats my thoughts
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wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

I am sure that the UK is benefitting from being a member of the E U, but the benefits are not that evidant on the ground. For the UK peoples to vote for the euro there would have to be a distinct advantage to do so. True it would help when going abroad on holiday etc, but I think that the concensus of opinion is that its just another opportunity to get ripped off with high street prices etc. The fishing industry is shot!! and is under threat in Ireland too. I wonder what would have happened to the farming industry in Ireland without the E U and SFP and all that goes with it. Having said all this, perhaps us Brits are just too Mule headed Laughing

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tringle · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject:

As my Dad said (and hes not usually clued up on a lot of stuff) at one of the votes about EU in the late 70's or early 80's
2we are f**ked if we dont and f**ked if we do"
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jon234567890 · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 10

I love history, and I can't help but think of the Roman Empire when I think of the EU.
The way the Romans worked was they built (or funded the building of) Roads, Public works, etc. This was good for the local populations...
They introduced them to new ideas, new traditions, new goods, eg. Wine, (esspresso?), the similarities (in the earlier days of the empire) are bizarre, the principles are basically the same .... native peoples / governments, give up, bit by bit, their National Independance allowing a greater empire to make their decisions for them, in return for greater financial rewards ... I am amazed at how quickly and cheaply the Irish have sold their country to the EU, if only the Brits had known that the notion of an independant Irish Republic was for sale Shocked

THE MAJOR difference is that the EU has no centrally strong unifying element, eg. a Leader (military), this enables member states to exert their autonomy.
To think that Ireland (Southern) fought Sooooo loong and hard for her independance (and Britain to keep it in two world wars), and now our soo called political Reprentatives are handing that Independance away Evil or Very Mad

One day we will waken up, and ask, "where did my country go" Crying or Very sad

Jon.

keithrawlins · Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 152 Location: banbridge

as a brit and still out of the euro me main problem with bruusls is that noone in my family can cook the dam things right.

keithrawlins · Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 152 Location: banbridge

sorry couldint resist. but my problem is that emps are aponted and not elected, and that they are given to much power, with no way for us to upose there pulicies.

tringle · Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: