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phil · Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:48 am Post subject:

Get off the fence, is that a yes or a no for Lisbon.

blowin · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:55 am Post subject:

My instinct would be to say No because I am sceptical about the ability of groups of people , let alone whole nations , to work co-operatively but I don't "do" politics and don't even read the papers these days so am not qualified to express an informed opinion .

phil · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:18 am Post subject:

The politicians haven't read the paperwork concerning the Treaty either,
they also don't have an opinion they just tow the party line.

wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

As I am a floating voter and can be brought easily. Why should we vote for Lisbon?. Or for that matter, Why should we vote no?

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phil · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:23 am Post subject:

Listen to Tony Benn he gives you all the reasons to vote no.
As for being bought see Bertie for more details.
Chris you have all the qualifications for a career in politics.

dara · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 186 Location: Mayo

You're not on your own wayland.
Vincent Browne, presenter of TV3's 'nightly news with Vincent Browne' is of the same opinion. As one of the only genuine political comentators on this island of news media whimps (most have more focus on the licence fee than on debate) he wrote the following in the business post...

http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2009/07/12/story43041.asp

Personally i don't think that the EU council deserves a crippling kick in the niagara's but a toe up the hole from the people might remind them never to ignore our will.

phil · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject:

That's got to be a no then,you can't agree to something that is impossible to understand.

phil · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:47 am Post subject:

At the very bottom of page eight of the Lisbon treaty(your guide)after telling you all about workers rights, it states

"This European Council declaration on workers rights is a political statement.
It is not legally binding"

That just about sums up all the promises this Government have made.

quarryman · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 417 Location: Sligo

67 : 33

phil · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject:

But what was it Mr Cowen said? "The people's decision is sovereign." Ah, yes, we must respect the will of the people.
They have absolutely no respect for the will of the people unless it suits them,
anyone for the best out of three???