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lofty



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Location: north mayo

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Mushrooms Reply with quote

was shocked and stunned the other day to get a few field mushrooms on our land. Never have seen them this early before. The question i have is has anybody had any other varieties yet this year.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well spotted !  Very Happy  Conditions seem good round here too . Haven't found any edibles yet  but several different types of delicate "toadstool" have appeared so it's off to the fields and woods asap to have a good look around  .
Good luck . Let us know what you find .  Wink
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Graney



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Location: East Clare

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've got lots of miscellaneous brown capped mushrooms coming up everywhere. Looks just like autumn.

I've never got to grips with what's edible and what's not in the mushroom world. Can anyone recommend a simple guide?
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quarryman



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Location: Sligo

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLOWIN   Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
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blowin



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Location: Tubbercurry , Co Sligo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha , very drole !   Laughing

Graney -- Sorry but I can't find my favourite guide at the moment but will try to remember to post details when I do ( if I haven't poisoned myself by then !  Laughing  ) .
Bottom line is that there is no such thing as a guide  which is both simple and safe to use for identifying edibles unless you have some background knowledge and/or are prepared to do some homework to go with it .  That is not to say that you should be put off , just that there are a lot of look-alikes . Some easy mistakes could have very unpleasant consequences and it is ( yet another ) bee in my bonnet that many books fail to make this clear .
There is no substitute for spending time with an expert if you can find one of those . Don't include me in that category but I do confidently eat about a dozen different types from the wild and can identify the few which you should definitely avoid ( or die  ) and that is good enough for my foraging . I'd be happy to have a walkabout and share my limited knowledge with anyone but they would probably have to come here because I am a bit restricted on travel just now .
Meanwhile , I had it in mind to post a mini guide on this forum --- showing just a few fungi which are common , edible and,  more to the point , virtually unmistakable . Unfortunately don't have / can't find free pics on the net and working thru links is really tedious on this landline .
I'll find that book !
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paul S



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Location: Isle of Wight England

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must agree with Blowin I do a lot of mushrooming over here in UK.

Get yourself on a Forah with an expert it's worth everypenny. Learn to identify a few edibles in your area and go from there. I find there's a lot of confusing advice out there. Some advise taking spore prints for identification. Ok if your only interested in id. By the time you go back having got your print someone else has had your find!!!

How is Ireland for the Mushroom hunter?  Were I am we lack mature woodland especially Oaks something apparantly to do with Henry 8ths and building all those War Ships. Theres a lot of organic farms around me so meadow mushrooming can be very good at times.

All the best

Paul
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Graney



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Location: East Clare

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Blowin. I'll look around for any fungal forays. I don't think I trust my powers of identification from a book alone - and BT knows what my eyesight is like, so I'm sure she wouldn't trust it either  Wink

If you do think of getting an event together (where's the Social Secretary to organise it ?  Wink ) I'm sure we'd be up for it.
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blowin



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Location: Tubbercurry , Co Sligo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pocket guide :
"Field Guide To Mushrooms of Britain and Europe" .
By H & R Grunert .
ISBN number 1 -85223- 592- 6

A big plus with this one is that it has notes on "possible confusion" in addition to comprehensive but concise description + quality pics .  
When trying anything for the first time I get MOH to eat it first  Wink  Laughing  Laughing  but only after I have checked every detail in at least two other , heavyweight / scientific refence books .

Main point is that there are no general rules which guarantee that the fungi you have in your hand will be safe to eat . Having said that , it is also true that there are only a couple of moderately common ones which will , without a doubt , kill you . A lot of people get away with eating some that I wouldn't risk or bother with . They just pass thru the system like any tough fibre or , at the worst , give you an uncomfortable couple of days .
There are , however , a few useful guides around what to avoid unless you are extremely hungry or adventurous . I'll make up a few and jot them down later .   Wink
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blowin



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graney wrote:
.... miscellaneous brown capped mushrooms ...

As a general rule smallish , delicate fungi which answer to that general descrition are best left where they are . Mostly they are very difficult to identify with any degree of confidence , even with a microscope. ( I never bother if I would have to go to those lengths ) . There is a fairly distinctive edible ( Grisette ) but if you are very unlucky you will have got hold of one of the two common but genuinely lethal types ( Death Cap ) . These should not even be handled as the toxins are thought to be on the skin and can be transfered . The other fairly easily identifiable ones won't kill but will cause hallucination if you eat them in quantity . They become a Class A drug ( same as heroin etc ) the minute they begin to dry and you would have some explaining to do if you were caught  with more than a couple of fresh ones in your collection  Shocked  Rolling Eyes  ( Psilocybin aka Magic Mushrooms or Liberty Cap )   Cool .
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul S wrote:
... How is Ireland for the Mushroom hunter?  ...

It is a mystery to me , that's what it is !
Most of my own experience comes from around the south of England so I wouldn't expect everything to be the same as here in NW ROI but I am surprised at how very different it is . Some woodland simply shouts fungus but is completely bare but I have found field mushrooms within 10 ft of the sea . Flushes came , went  then came back again last year --- loads of "toadstools" of all colours and sizes but hardly anything edible anywhere that I could find . Maybe I just looked in the wrong places but I tried all sorts of different habitats  Rolling Eyes .
Following Lofty's comment I went out today and am almost certain that I saw a good number of large field mushrooms scattered about . Could be sheeps wool or those bloomin footballs they leave out for the lambs but I don't think so . Will try to get onto the fields tomorrow .


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