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wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

With the recent ban on drift netting for Salmon, does the ban also effect long liners? I only ask this as the two more or less went hand in hand in the UK. I have been a longliner in the past and intended to do the same over here. Anyone got some info on this please.

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blowin · Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:04 am Post subject:

Hi W , can't help you just now I'm afraid but I intend to check out the regs re: cast-netting from the shoreline if I can ever get around to it . I imagine that the info we both want will be in the same place , where-ever that is . Maybe the Fisheries Board site , or the Irish sea angling forum ? Let's post our findings under here .

wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

Cheers Mate. Have you done much long lining? What methods would you like to try over where you are?
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admin · Site Admin Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 227

I haven't tried longlining myself but I'm sure it would produce some really interesting results around the Irish coast . A mate and I have lost tackle to what I think must have been lines stretched between bouys within 200 yds of the coast . This was not a million miles from the mouth of the Moy so I doubt anyone would say what they actually caught .
For those who aren't familiar with this subject , we are talking specifically about long-lining in the open sea and are trying to establish whether it is still unregulated , not about lines stretched out from the shore and checked as the tide recedes . That definitely requires a permit or may be totally illegal . I'm not sure which .
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bref · Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 136 Location: South Dublin

Hi lads

just to be sure, are you talking about long lines with hooks?
well any way doesnt really matter.
I have not ever heard any thing about regulations regarding using any method for catching for the pot other that specifically licenced fish ie salmon, seatrout, eels. (I am pretty sure you need a permit to cath eels)I even think you are OK catching lobster for the pot. (maybe check this).
So, it is OK to use whatever method you choose, long lines, gill nets , trammell nets, fishtrap or pot to catch for self consumption. You can NOT sell it though.
Obviously, safety for yourself and safety and consideration for others should always be foremost in your mind.
Any questions you have re methods bait etc. PM me and Id be glad to help.

wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

Thanks for that Bref. The long line that I want to use does have hooks. The total length that I could handle is about 100mtrs and set at a preset depth. This line would be set off shore strung between two anchors and marker bouys. I would space the hooks at 1.5 mtrs approx and allow the hooks a .5 mtr trace length. Although the line could be used to target spacific species I have always found it a bit of random way to fish for the pot. It will not be used with commercial intent so I guess it will be ok to use Wink

Cheers.
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blowin · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject:

Sounds interesting ! Are you going to vary the hook sizes and baits ?

wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

I never have and on reflection I dont think its a good idea. Well not with the system that I will be using. I have got me eye on a Orkney 16 footer and have made plans to mod the boat for single handed longlining. Its a long story but if you think about, baiting up, casting the line, retrieving the line, stowing the line. All without getting into a yup!! Then different size hooks and bait would just complecate the issue me thinks. I would be using a winch with multi spools. There is no reason why these changable spools could not have different size hooks to target spacific fish etc. What do you think?
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blowin · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:09 am Post subject:

Haha so you are doing it properly then . That really does sound interesting -- I haven't tried anything like it .
I'm sure you are right about the hooks and I guess the difference in the snoods could give nightmare tangles . I was just thinking about the variety of fish we have taken from one location . These range from dab through decent pollack and up to 35 lb tope within a 5 mile radius . Not all in the same kind of local environment , of course , so you'd be fine with a decent depth finder and a selection of spools . Sorry to ramble ... I'm just dreaming while the gale tries to take my roof off .
What sort of size(s) will you use as standard , and what bait ( there are big conger down there ) ?

wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

I think you said that the sands of your local beach are extensive. When I was a lad in North Norfolk we used to put longlines out on an exposed sand bar at low water. At one end would be an anchor and at the other end a float. At high tide we would row out to the float and retrieve the line plus its catch into the boat and row home. This saved a long walk back. We also would net gullies at low water. The net would be up to a metre high. Returning before low water to see if we had trapped anything in the gully. My mate caught a 18lb Salmon once. I only mention this because If your coastline is suitable this can be done without a boat. We have very low tides here only about two metres so it is not possible. Just a thought. If you were to try the longline on a sand bar you must cover up the bait with sand to stop the gulls from having a go at it.
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