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wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

Having moved here from ban everything England. I am wondering what the local points of view are in regard to hunting. I watched the local hunt work the field next to mine. It was a site I have not seen for years. As to corsing. I have hunted for the pot with Lurchers. I would do again but not for the Hare. I have this sad feeling about change. I would not want most country traditions messed with. What do you think?

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phil · Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject:

I could not agree more,what really annoys me is people moveing here because of the life style, and then try to change parts of it because it offends them in some way,
Ive noticed over the last few years,how the number of young bucks out with a ferret or terrier has dwindled.Maybe hunting in one form or another will die out because of a lack of interest.
Now that would be very sad.

blowin · Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject:

Setting aside anything to do with ethics I wonder how loose dogs would be viewed by the sheep farmers up in these hills ?

wayland · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: Campile. Wexford

Not just up in the hills. I will be keeping a few sheep this year and the thought of dogs having a go at them will get me reaching for the gun!!. I dont want to shoot any dog but having first hand experience with dead and dieing yews!!!!!. Its not the dogs fault!!!!. My dogs will do as they are told. If they didnot then they dont come off the lead untill they do. I have watched corsing in the UK years ago. and most of the hares got away but to chase a hare just for sport!!!!. Not for me. Its like not shooting a sitting pheasant. Giving my dinner a sporting chance to get away seems foolish to me. Perhaps this is why I dont get many invites to go shooting.
Well thats sportsmen for yer Wink

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babylady · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 43

"The true hunter hunts out of necessity, not out of the pleaseure of killing"

Not against hunting - but am totally anti coursing, stag hunting -so called "blood sports"

And I can't stand when someone goes out and shoots a heap of poor ducks/pheasants only for the meath to go to waste.

Only shoot what you will eat...

phil · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject:

What sort of hunting do you find acceptable.

Camile · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject:

Hello,

I wasn't too keen on hunting a few years back .. but having moved to the country and lucky enough to have been hunting with someone that has a clue what they are doing ... for fox and deer, and are not the so called "big guns" from the big towns ...

you then understand what's behind it, ... but the effort you put in to understand and analize you target .. what they call stalking ... killing part is not satisfactory the satisfactory part of the "hunt"

for fox, he ate my chickens and became too cute .. so it was him or me ... got him myself, after stalking for 1 1/2 month ( I'm a bit schlow Laughing

), killing him didn't feel good .. but having got the best of a smart cheeky animal, was the good part ..

as for deer, venison is a great meat .... had a stew of it 3 days ago .. simply gorgeous ! and I saw a master stalker (ie studied and passed an exam to become a professional stalker) .. It's not shooting from the car .. it's understanding the deer's behavior ... crawling through bramble to get a nice an secure shot ... and then working the blood dogs if you have to ..

once we went hunting together (me as a spectator) .. once he had shot it and me being a softy enough ... I was telling him that ain't dead (although it was) .. he decided to show how to "finish" him cleanly and rapidily ... took about 5 secs to have the knife into the brain .. sorted . .

so if done responsibly with respect of nature and the quarry ... and an edible fest at the end .. I don't see anything wrong with it ..

Camile

babylady · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 43

Hi Phil
The only hunting I find acceptable is when the animals suffers the least amount of fear and pain.

Nothing wrong with going out and shooting something that you are defo going to eat.

What I am against is the hunting of foxes, stags etc by people on horseback who get some sick thrill chasing the poor animal to exhaustion only to have it killed by dogs in the foxes case.

This type of hunting can only be enjoyed by people with no respect for nature and animals.

It you respect the animal you will want to cause it the absolute least amount of suffering possible.
True???

phil · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject:

I think your argument is based more on class than actual cruelty.
Banning fox hunting has not saved the life of one fox,if a fox is chased by hounds or coursed by a lurcher its either killed or gets away tired but unharmed.Shooting any animal be it for food or because its a pest is only painless if you kill it outright,the number of animals that have been wounded and left to die a slow death is unknown.

babylady · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 43

...based more on class.

I preseume you mean Upper, Middle of Lower Class.
Would that be based on the size of my house, the car I drive and how much I earn?

You don't know what type of 'class' I am so don't presume to think my opinion is that way based.

All we can hope is that people will have enough respect for the animal to enure it suffers as little as possible.